Metabolic Typing?

[Ицето]

Някой интересувал ли се е?

Намерих една серия от статии в блога на Eric Cressey, която общо взето е маркетинг на Metabolic Typing, но във втората част едно нещо ме грабна.

In the 1930s, Weston Price discovered, by visiting many parts of the world, that there was a link between modern eating habits and the degree of chronic degenerative illness. He also concluded that there was no such thing as a uniform, “healthy” diet (1). Due to a myriad of variables including climate, environmental conditions, common food supplies, etc., different cultural and ethnic groups have developed different kinds of dietary requirements.

Това съм го чел и в една книга на Michael Pollan, но не му обърнах внимание.

Ето един конкретен пример:

For example, many of the indigenous people who live at or near the equator have a strong hereditary need for diets high in carbohydrates i.e. fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes. In contrast, the ancestral diets of Eskimos consisted primarily of protein and fat in order to keep warm and allow them to survive.

Ето тук ми стана интересно:

In the late 70s and early 80s, William Wolcott made a revolutionary discovery by proving that the body’s Autonomic Nervous System and the oxidative system were connected. This discovery allowed Wolcott to very accurately predict what kinds of foods each person needs to establish a balance between these two aforementioned systems.

Първото отговаря за нещата, които са на автопилот: храносмилане, имунна система, възстановяване, сърцебиене, дишане и т.н.

Oxidative system отговаря как се разпределя енергията от храната, която взимаме:

The glycolysis simply concerns the metabolism of carbohydrates. Beta-oxidation is involved in fat metabolism. These two components produce energy in the Krebs Cycle, and they are needed in the right amounts. If there is too much oxaloacetate and not enough acetyl coenzyme-A, or vice versa, then energy production will be lacking. This determination of how our bodies execute energy production is known as cellular oxidation

Следователно, бива открито, че има така наречените fast, slow и balanced oxidizers:

1) He observed that some people burned food too slowly, while others burned it too quickly. 2) Now we need to figure out whether you are a slow oxidizer, a fast oxidizer, or a mixed oxidizer by determining which characteristics (individual to you) apply to each. 3) Fast oxidizers depend too much on the oxidation of carbohydrates in glycolysis for energy production. They have a tendency to burn carbohydrates too quickly, which results in an excess production of oxaloacetate (explained above). Obviously, a high carbohydrate diet will only make the problem worse. However, since proteins and fats are dietary sources of Acetyl Co-A, which is lacking, they will help stimulate and sustain beta-oxidation, which is needed. This will help balance the body chemistry and stabilize energy production.

След това се говори за Metabolic Typing и за трите вида. Protein, Carbs, Balanced.

Protein types obviously do well on a diet high in protein but specifically those proteins that are high-fat proteins. Most protein types also do well on whole fat foods in the form of milk, cream, eggs, cheese, and cottage cheese. They are free to use raw, organic butter, ghee, coconut oil, olive oil, natural cold-pressed oils (flax oil), fish oil, and raw nuts and seeds.

Ясно, това си е ВМ - НВХ за мен.

Сега за Carb Type:

The carbo diet should include liberal amounts of carbohydrates in the form of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. It is important to note that a low protein diet does not mean a no-protein diet. It is equally important to note that in a future article, I will be outlining the typical diets that the Russian Olympic weightlifters used in the late 70’s and 80’s. If you think that all of these guys were ingesting 1.5 grams or more protein per pound of bodyweight, or lean bodyweight, or whatever it is these days that the latest guru is recommending, then think again. I hardly believe that we can argue with the success that the Russians, Bulgarians, and eastern Europeans enjoyed in Olympic weightlifting during this time period.



Какви въглехидрати обаче?

Just like the protein type, however, the best carbohydrate sources for carbo types are vegetables with low or moderate levels of sugar and starch.

Значи картофите отпаднаха. Остават плодове, зеленчуци и зърнени.

Ето линк към първата част, най-вече за инсулин, кръвно налягане и холестерол става дума. Оттам нататък сменяйте номера в линка до 4 (засега последната част.) :

http://ericcressey.com/building-vibrant-health-part-1

Интересно ми е най-вече заради ето тези тестове, наистина нещата много се задълбочават:

1. Autonomic Nervous System (NeuroEndocrine-Sympathetic/Balanced/Parasympathetic)

2. CarboOxidative (Fast/Slow/Mixed Oxidation)

3. Steroidal Hormone Balance (Pregnenolone/DHEA/Androgens/Estrogens/Progesterone/Cortisol)

4. Neurotransmitter Balance (Excitatory/Inhibitory)

5. LipoOxidative (Anabolic/Catabolic)

6. Electrolyte (Stress/Insufficiency)

7. Acid/Alkaline (6 different kinds of imbalances)

8. Endocrine Type

9. Blood Type

10. Constitutional Type

11. Prostaglandin Balance

Интересна концепция е. Дори в сайта на Доктор Меркола го има. Какво мислите?

Един вид не казва нищо ново, за мен сентенцията за правилно хранене си е натурални, истински храни, нищо минало през човека. Интересно е като се задълбаеш кое повече трябва да ядеш ...

Официално мога да си призная, че съм превъртял на тази тема, интересувам дали трябва даден човек да яде повече месо или повече зеленчуци.

[Icoico]

For example, many of the indigenous people who live at or near the equator have a strong hereditary need for diets high in carbohydrates i.e. fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes.

Ей с това не съм съгласен.Факт е,че от примитивните народи тези,които се хранят предимно със въглехидрати живеят много по-кратко,губят зъбите и сексуалната си функция по-рано и страдат от затлъстяване,диабет и др. дегенеративни заболявания много повече.Просто употребяват това,което е в наличност в средата им и оцеляват

[Ицето]

И аз съм на това мнение, но нещата ми се сториха много задълбочени и искам да си се поровя.

Намерих това за Weston A. Price в Африка:

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional ... frica.html

Утре ще го чета, но на пръв поглед това ми се наби на очи:

Africa also afforded Dr. Price the opportunity to compare primitive groups composed largely of meat eaters, with those that were mostly vegetarian. The Masai of Tankanika, Chewya of Kenya, Muhima of Uganda, Watusi of Ruanda and the Neurs tribes on the western side of the Nile in the Sudan were all cattle-keeping people. Their diets consisted largely of milk, blood and meat, supplemented in some cases with fish and with small amounts of grains, fruits and vegetables. Rich in animal fats, these diets provided large amounts of the fat-soluble vitamins Price discovered to be so necessary for proper development of the physical body and freedom from disease. The Neurs especially valued the livers of animals, considered so sacred "that it may not be touched by human hands. . . It is eaten both raw and cooked."2

These tribes were noted for their fine physiques and great height-in some groups the women averaged over 6 feet tall, and many men reached almost seven feet. Examinations of their teeth revealed very few caries, usually less than 0.5%. Nowhere in his travels had Price yet found groups that had no cavities at all, yet among the cattle-herding tribes of Africa, Dr. Price found six tribes that were completely free of dental decay. Furthermore, all members of these tribes exhibited straight, uncrowded teeth.

Largely vegetarian Bantu tribes such as the Kikuyu and Wakamba were agriculturists. Their diet consisted of sweet potatoes, corn, beans, bananas, millet and Kafir corn or sorghum. They were less robust than their meat-eating neighbors, and tended to be dominated by them. Price found that vegetarian groups had some tooth decay-usually around 5% or 6% of all teeth, still small numbers compared to Whites living off store-bought foods. Even among these largely vegetarian tribes, however, dental occlusions were rare, as were degenerative diseases.

Десеторна разлика.

А последното го болднах за да се види откъде може би се вадят грешни изводи.

[Милко Георгиев]

Не съм видял файда от това в и около практиката си.
Скиптичен съм към цялата тази теория.
Но не мога да я отрека, защото нямам преки, лични данни.

[Милко Георгиев]

Мисля да си направя така наречения nutritional typing тест на Меркола. Макар че от беглите ми прегледи на описанията, би трябвало да съм protein type. Между другото Меркола казва, че metabolic typing и неговия nutritional typing не било баш едн и също, но отдавна го четох и не ъм се задълбавала в детайли, оставих ги за "друг път".

И какво ще стане, ако този тайпингъ ти каже, че си Carb type
Ще започнеш да праскаш тортички
От хората 98% са на високо-въглехидратна и кво ... видели са се у здраве и красота

[Милко Георгиев]

Както казах не съм се задълбавала, но доколкото бях схванала става въпрос за малко по-висок прием н въглехидрати под формата на зеленчуци и плодове, зеленчукови сокове и подобни, а не за високо въглехидратно хранене, още по-малко пък за тортички

Според мен става дума за маркетинг и/или невежество

[cremcaramel]

Според мен си много прав за маркетинга

[Ицето]

То на мен това ми беше идеята, написах го във второто изречение, колко е истина, колко е маркетинг? Нещата ми се сториха правдоподобни, но ето в Африка нещата са категорични.